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what's up everybody happy monday hope

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you had a good weekend

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um it is the weather's actually turned

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out to be pretty decent when i finally

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so

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this will probably be like a

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three-minute interview then i'm gonna go

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outside and run around through a

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sprinkler

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probably not but

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thanks everybody for joining us uh dave

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david altman

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we had a great show not too long ago

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awesome

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benji josh andres jose

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uh everybody robert

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ntme9 what's up uh appreciate everybody

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hanging out we have a special guest

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today a former

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chief petty officer

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was on the princeton was around during

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the uh nimitz tic-tac event so we're

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going to talk with them about that i put

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something in the

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link in the description of this video to

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interview we did with dave beatty if you

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want to check that out you can do that

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too that's pretty good it's pretty uh

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detailed as far as insider baseball kind

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of stuff so

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that could be good to listen to if

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you're into that as well but

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um appreciate you hanging out and yeah

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without further ado i'll bring him in uh

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ryan

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wygilt

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um i appreciate you hanging out and yeah

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without further ado i'll bring

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in

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we got some echo

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yeah that's some really bad echo

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appreciate you hanging out and yeah

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do you have youtube open yes

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okay that's what happened sorry yeah

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there you go no that's okay that's okay

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i'm like oh man we were just talking

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though i was a first class so

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unfortunately it wasn't in that long

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didn't

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well you would have

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hopefully i think so see you later how

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long were you serving i served for 15

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years 15 years wow that's a long time so

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you weren't you're in about the you know

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serve your couple years or whatever and

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get out you must have really enjoyed it

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oh yeah i tried to do my 20.

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yeah

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um

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tell me about actually let's start from

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the beginning tell me about what made

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hard decision to make for a lot of

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people what kind of put you over the

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edge and made you say i want to serve my

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country

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well i grew up in a everybody served

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kind of family and

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young 17 year old didn't know what else

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to do with my life and figure it was the

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best choice to go

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figure out what to become so i joined

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the navy

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so did did you wind up serving during it

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like um

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any wars or anything that

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but um all the operations i ended up in

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were south america so

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okay i never went out to the war zone

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then i bet i bet you probably thought

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when you entered the navy that there

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would be a major ufo sighting that the

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papers would write about and stuff and

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i'd be doing interviews about it i

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didn't know this would happen that's

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pretty cool though yeah

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where were you ever

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did you ever even think about ufos

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always believed in ufos you know i grew

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unidentified so you know or the x-files

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so i i always believe there was more out

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there that's for sure

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you never believed that i would be a

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part of one that was so you know

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yeah that's that's for sure

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we we have that event and you know from

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to dave beatty's this was a 2004 correct

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yes yeah so listening to dave beatty's

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interview with you sounds like you kind

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of found out about it

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because you went to down to the cic is

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uh that's what i was uh

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the whole intercept issue so there was a

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lot of excitement going on down there

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so explain to me a little bit how that

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how that happened and what that looked

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area on the ship where i was making a

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security a secure phone call to i don't

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even remember exactly who anymore but i

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was on the phone there um

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there was you know radar operators

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sitting next to me they had screens

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going everybody was extremely excited

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about what they were seeing and watching

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what was going on

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um i was kind of more involved on my

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phone call than anything so

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sure you know i knew something was going

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on and they were really excited but

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it can be like that in there so

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so that's that's uh actually brings up a

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good point so that energy that was

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kind of a miss during that time

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everybody's excited hooting and

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hollering and stuff that's kind of a

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atmosphere down there well

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you know sometimes when you're with the

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battle group and there's a lot of

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things going on at the same time it can

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just become a very

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you know chaotic environment somewhat

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but most of the time it's kind of quiet

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yeah no i i can't imagine i had

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you know i had a grandfather and my dad

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was in the navy my grandfather was a

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cook world war ii and all that

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world war ii that sank so

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wow right oh my god two sinkings two

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ships that sank so wow nanny was there

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on d-day

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wow incredible

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but uh the attack on pearl harbor

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sure he was on his ship

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that is uh yeah that's a crazy story in

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and of itself with our aircraft carriers

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and ships like the navy right battle

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during world war ii is amazing so

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so you're on the phone all this stuff is

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kind of uh people are hooting and

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hollering when did you first learn that

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a ufo that they had been tracking

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and that's why they were so excited

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that we were tracking something

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you know serious but how serious i

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didn't know and i also didn't know if it

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was part of you know the operations that

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we were doing at the time

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sure because this was like the last

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workup that you do for your final

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qualifications you know before you go

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out on long trips

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okay gotcha so you were thinking maybe

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it was some sort of like uh test drill

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or something possibly more just not

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paying attention to it to be honest with

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like it wasn't the the most important

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thing in my life at the moment and what

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during that work up anyway so

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story i told people you know throughout

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thinking like you're almost done or

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you know you had how long are you

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serving up till then so you were there

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any seven

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anyone did you hear of anyone seeing

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any weird stuff even remotely close to

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that before that event anywhere else

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if people even talk about ufos on the

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boat or it was kind of like that wasn't

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even a thing or if it wasn't people

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conversation um yeah

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and and typically it would just be more

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of as humor you know people joking

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interesting more than seriousness

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right well yeah that's kind of

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the world we live in you see a ufo your

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kind of tagged as a lunatic more or less

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yeah so that's changing now but yeah

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did you know um

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david fravor at the time that were you

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like aware of who that person was or

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diedrich or anything no no never met him

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in my life

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uh never knew about him never knew

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anything about him he's a completely

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different ship than i was on yeah

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because you're a princeton right yeah i

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was on the princeton okay gotcha

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um

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but then you headed over to the nimitz

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for some reason you said right no so

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i've never even been on the nimitz okay

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gotcha

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the funny story is is i was trying to

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get off of the ship and go home because

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my wife at that time was having some

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issues with the pregnancies so i was

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trying to get home

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i had worked out someone to replace me

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and everything but they wouldn't allow

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me to leave

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so you know i had been trying to get

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over to the ship but this whole incident

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had

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stopped me from being able to leave the

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battlegroup basically to go back home

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i hope everything turned out all right

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oh everything my daughter ended up being

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born she was perfectly healthy so so

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what a story you could tell her probably

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yeah you would never believe what

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so uh all that's

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happening in the the ship itself was

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now correct me if i'm wrong that the

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ship itself

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had like live tracking of this object or

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is that right yeah they have the spy

292
00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:45,680
radar on this ship so spies is extremely

293
00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:48,160
powerful radar i've

294
00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:52,480
literally seen it pick up a small

295
00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:54,079
30-foot vessel

296
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over 200 and

297
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i don't even remember it was over 200

298
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nautical miles away from us with

299
00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,240
pinpoint accuracy so i mean it's an

300
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extremely powerful radar i know they

301
00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:06,640
were doing a new

302
00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:09,040
program or

303
00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:10,640
something with it you know on this

304
00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:12,000
workup

305
00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:13,519
because they didn't have technicians

306
00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,079
that were there helping them um i

307
00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:18,000
remember that

308
00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:21,200
yeah but they're very you know it's

309
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like the carrier's number one go-to ship

310
00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,800
they really do a lot for the carrier

311
00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:28,399
yeah well that's what they should yeah

312
00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:29,440
it's like

313
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a living base or a floating base

314
00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:34,160
basically yeah yeah you got to take care

315
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of that

316
00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:36,640
um

317
00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:40,550
you're you're on this phone call

318
00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:42,320
everybody's kind of hollering you get

319
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off the phone

320
00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:46,160
you're kind of figuring out what this is

321
00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:48,880
and is that one you were able to

322
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see the video

323
00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:54,480
the video was going on while i was in

324
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combat okay so you know the

325
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all the aircraft

326
00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:01,839
are linked together you know the ships

327
00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:04,000
are linked together the aircraft you

328
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know they get downloads from

329
00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,800
[Music]

330
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or the ships get downloads from the

331
00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:10,480
aircraft so you know everything is

332
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monitored and

333
00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:13,680
that's what was going on in there while

334
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i was in there um

335
00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:16,720
yeah

336
00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:20,000
so i did see it on the screen

337
00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:21,760
it's really more of just you know a

338
00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:23,920
camera and again like i said i really

339
00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:26,160
was more paying attention to my phone

340
00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:28,720
call with at like i think i was with a

341
00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:31,040
command or another ship out there at the

342
00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:36,790
yeah it um if i remember correctly how

343
00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:38,880
long was the video if you would have had

344
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uh if you would had to guess

345
00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:43,279
well

346
00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:44,800
it was playing the whole time i was in

347
00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:45,760
there

348
00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:53,350
at least five minutes okay yeah

349
00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:54,720
i'd have to be on the phone for a good

350
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five minutes

351
00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:58,720
so we're getting ripped off man

352
00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:00,720
yeah there's a lot more there's a lot

353
00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:02,320
more

354
00:13:05,110 --> 00:13:04,000
do you remember seeing anything that

355
00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:05,120
would like

356
00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:07,040
i mean i can kind of assume the answer

357
00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:08,399
you remember seeing anything that would

358
00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:10,240
lead you to

359
00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:12,160
like assume why they would cut it up

360
00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:13,680
like that

361
00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:16,480
or was it all just basically what we've

362
00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,880
seen except longer

363
00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:20,880
um

364
00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:23,120
so

365
00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:24,639
i know that they

366
00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:26,240
can use

367
00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:27,680
you know clips

368
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:30,320
as breathing points

369
00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:32,480
i've seen it um

370
00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:33,600
you know the

371
00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:35,680
there was a guy who had had his head cut

372
00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:36,560
off

373
00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:37,839
out to sea

374
00:13:41,430 --> 00:13:40,399
and it ended up on a website

375
00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,440
and

376
00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:43,440
they what they had taken is a download

377
00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:45,760
of a safety briefing

378
00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:48,800
that was leaked out so i know that they

379
00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:49,600
make

380
00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:52,240
clips from things and accidents and

381
00:13:56,790 --> 00:13:54,959
situations that happen as

382
00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:56,800
that because i've seen it happen you

383
00:14:00,949 --> 00:14:00,000
know yeah but uh

384
00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,959
i believe

385
00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,560
some type of a briefing someone had put

386
00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:04,560
in together and

387
00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:06,800
decided to leak out that way but i know

388
00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:08,880
that their the video was going on the

389
00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:10,639
whole time i was in that

390
00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:12,160
space so

391
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:15,040
what typically happens with those videos

392
00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:17,920
uh after is it recording like 24 hours a

393
00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:19,920
day all the time and they can

394
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:21,279
just kind of

395
00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,480
download it somewhere else when they

396
00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:24,959
wonder how does that work i have no idea

397
00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:28,880
honestly that's okay no clue um

398
00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,480
yeah i have no idea

399
00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:32,160
that's okay yeah

400
00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:33,839
um interesting

401
00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,839
man was anyone recording it with their

402
00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:37,519
cell phone

403
00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:38,399
no

404
00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,360
you're out to see it works anyway so got

405
00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:49,440
your blackberry up there

406
00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:51,279
yeah gotcha

407
00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:52,560
um

408
00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:54,480
so that happens when when did people

409
00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,079
come

410
00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:57,440
in

411
00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,160
like what's your version of

412
00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:02,800
um the air force folks that came

413
00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,320
and took

414
00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,480
some of the tapes or data or they had

415
00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:08,560
backpacks or something or like what's

416
00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:10,800
your um

417
00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:12,800
what's your story with that i guess

418
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:13,600
so

419
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,399
uh

420
00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:16,240
i was part of the air detachment on

421
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:18,880
board so we were we had two helicopters

422
00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:19,680
there

423
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:21,199
right and

424
00:15:24,829 --> 00:15:22,800
you know i have everything to do with

425
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,839
what's going on in the flight deck

426
00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:26,399
um

427
00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:27,440
what's

428
00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:30,639
a typical situation is another aircraft

429
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:33,759
lands on your deck and gets fuel or

430
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:36,480
offloads passengers things like that

431
00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:37,279
well

432
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:39,920
that evening that's what happened

433
00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:42,480
we had some officers who came in they

434
00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:44,560
were just wearing you know flight suits

435
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:47,440
over their uniform type deal

436
00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,199
you know walked with purpose to where

437
00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:52,240
they were going and left a little while

438
00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:53,199
later

439
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:55,279
i was out there so i saw these guys come

440
00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:56,320
on

441
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,759
yeah is that was that like a normal

442
00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:03,600
routine thing or is that like never

443
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:05,199
happened before

444
00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:11,749
i don't really remember ever picking up

445
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:15,199
or having any visitors that stayed

446
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:17,920
on any of my cruises or work ups but i'm

447
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:20,000
not saying that it doesn't happen

448
00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:21,839
you know sometimes you know people can

449
00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:28,310
so it's not exactly uncommon but it's

450
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:31,519
not common either yeah

451
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,440
interesting and i mean the story is

452
00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:35,120
apparently they took the

453
00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:37,279
the data bricks or whatever

454
00:16:39,509 --> 00:16:38,079
um

455
00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:39,519
however that goes was there any talk

456
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,120
about that afterwards

457
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,600
no i know

458
00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:46,000
it's hard to remember exactly sure

459
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:47,519
what's going on

460
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,560
but

461
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,680
i know

462
00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:52,240
one of our aircraft they

463
00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:55,600
took one of the boxes or something that

464
00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:57,759
you used to communicate with a battle

465
00:17:02,150 --> 00:16:58,800
group

466
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:02,160
uh from one of our aircraft and they

467
00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:03,279
you know

468
00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,839
so they had taken something like that

469
00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,439
off of one of our aircraft and we had to

470
00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:09,199
go get another one

471
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:11,199
later on

472
00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:12,640
interesting

473
00:17:16,829 --> 00:17:14,079
that is another

474
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:16,839
thing i remember how or what exactly it

475
00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:19,679
was again i don't remember

476
00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:20,480
yeah

477
00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:23,600
you know so long ago and it wasn't the

478
00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,839
most important moment that i can

479
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,360
remember

480
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,760
yeah i mean you had no idea what

481
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:31,120
it was going to turn out to be you

482
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,440
probably thought if anything you know it

483
00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:35,840
wouldn't get much past

484
00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:39,360
you know the ocean so to speak yeah

485
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,640
um

486
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:42,960
let me ask you this just as for this

487
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,400
it's like for some context i guess um

488
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:48,880
when have you ever been through

489
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,360
any sort of like training exercise where

490
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:53,919
it was like a surprise exercise like

491
00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,520
you're just going through your routines

492
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:57,600
and all of a sudden they surprise you

493
00:18:01,830 --> 00:18:00,960
with some sort of dramatic exercise no

494
00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:01,840
never

495
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:04,320
yeah if you're going to do a drill or

496
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,200
something

497
00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:07,280
you know what's going to happen

498
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,880
yeah

499
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,480
you know well before now there are

500
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:12,640
situations emergencies happen and they

501
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:15,200
do happen and i they happen kind of

502
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,679
frequently sometimes you know those do

503
00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,440
happen and everybody changes their

504
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:21,280
posture and

505
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,480
but typically it's it's like an accident

506
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:26,880
right now that's that's the only time

507
00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,600
that

508
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:29,280
i've ever been

509
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:30,799
you know oh we lost communication with

510
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:32,960
the aircraft well they you know full

511
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,120
speed ahead until we can to their last

512
00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:37,840
limited location you know

513
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:40,799
so um any instances where there is like

514
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,600
a foreign fighter or a foreign drone or

515
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:45,600
anything in the area that you had to

516
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,480
track down and id or anything

517
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,160
um

518
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:52,799
not any aircraft no

519
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,039
ships yes um

520
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,799
uh

521
00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:00,559
i call those like range followers or

522
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,600
whatever

523
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:03,520
the what are those called range

524
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,960
followers

525
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,679
i believe or something you don't really

526
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:09,600
know maybe that's a newer thing i don't

527
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:13,909
yeah i just know we've got you know

528
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,720
we've

529
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,720
certain chips you know i was involved

530
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:19,039
with a lot of uh anti-drug smuggling

531
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:21,039
stuff

532
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:23,840
so you know

533
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:26,880
yeah with south america i can imagine

534
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,679
yeah so you got like those uh uh

535
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:31,520
handmade submarines and stuff that they

536
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,320
did

537
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,000
that they made

538
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,080
i've seen a submarine before out in

539
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:38,559
south america in the middle of the ocean

540
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:43,909
damn they're there

541
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:47,200
yeah crazy literally saw it poke its

542
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,520
whatever snorkel up and

543
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,679
i started screaming out there and by the

544
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,200
time somebody paid attention on the

545
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:55,039
bridge it was gone

546
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,320
wow

547
00:20:02,710 --> 00:19:58,160
that's gotta be kind of freaky it was

548
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,590
poke out of the water like what is this

549
00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:07,039
what is kicking out of the water right

550
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,380
now yeah can i help you

551
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:10,400
[Laughter]

552
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:13,039
uh yeah i don't want any trouble sir

553
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:14,080
yeah

554
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:15,039
um

555
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,679
interesting so

556
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:19,520
you know when exercises happen you're

557
00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:22,000
told beforehand

558
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,120
you know so this happens it's it's like

559
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,390
it's

560
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:30,720
not normal basically you know like

561
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,159
something like this happens it's not

562
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,640
normal it's not an exercise basically if

563
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:35,919
we go on

564
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:39,039
you know um you know previous

565
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,960
routines and and how things work on the

566
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,240
on the ships

567
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,760
basically

568
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:45,200
um

569
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:47,440
yeah and especially you know how it

570
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:49,919
moved i was described to move pretty

571
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:52,960
insane especially for 2004

572
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,840
yeah and kevin day i i had spoken him

573
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,080
you know quite a bit on the ship so i

574
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,159
knew him at the time we weren't

575
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,640
friends i kind of didn't like him that

576
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,480
much but we did

577
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,240
all meant with each other you know well

578
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:07,760
he was a senior guy i was kind of a

579
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:10,159
little junior and sure we had i don't

580
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,159
remember but i know we had some

581
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:14,080
differences between us but i mean we did

582
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:15,520
deal with each other a lot and we did

583
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:17,600
speak a lot and i knew that

584
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:18,480
you know

585
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:20,320
something was going on

586
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,440
but

587
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,840
you know what it was i really didn't

588
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:25,120
care i guess

589
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,240
too much

590
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:27,760
because again like i said i don't want

591
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:29,679
to sound like i didn't care but it was

592
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:31,120
you know there was more for me to deal

593
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,200
with out there you know getting people

594
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,799
trained up

595
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,159
sure

596
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:38,080
no completely understand

597
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:39,120
um

598
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,559
you were committed to your position i

599
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:42,480
mean you were there for a long time so

600
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:44,799
yeah well i had been i was the only

601
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,600
qualified person in my command

602
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,600
so i got sent

603
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,240
a lot out to sea to train people so i

604
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,919
was kind of upset that i had to keep

605
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:56,000
going out and this actually ended up the

606
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,240
very last time i was out to see was on

607
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,840
this this work

608
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,440
that was the last time i ever uh stepped

609
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,799
foot on a ship

610
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:05,200
wow

611
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:08,000
have you kept up with with anybody from

612
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:09,120
that

613
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,000
uh episode or event like afterwards or

614
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,679
up until this day you're still friends

615
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,440
with anybody you know i didn't keep up

616
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,000
with anybody but i do kind of speak with

617
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,799
a couple of them now

618
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,320
there's just because you know we've met

619
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,080
and through this you know

620
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,880
yeah but uh no

621
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,720
i talked to a few other people to see if

622
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,240
they ever wanted to

623
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,000
you know maybe talk about it or if they

624
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:33,520
remember anything about it but no one

625
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:36,480
ever really would reply to me so i guess

626
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:37,600
they didn't want to talk about it or

627
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:40,400
they just didn't know anything about it

628
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,520
yeah i would say maybe uh

629
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:45,280
you know i'm just speculating but maybe

630
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,880
they didn't want to talk about it

631
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,720
because otherwise you can say i don't

632
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,360
know anything about it

633
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:52,799
which is kind of saying the same thing

634
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:55,280
right but yeah um

635
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,850
except not so rude

636
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,520
[Laughter]

637
00:23:01,430 --> 00:23:00,480
yeah

638
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,440
uh

639
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,880
interesting

640
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,640
so

641
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,559
i guess i mean there's you know it

642
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,720
because you didn't see it yourself so

643
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,039
like there's not a whole lot you could

644
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,120
say but i think

645
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,960
you know the the fact that it's never

646
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,120
happened before have you ever in it i

647
00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:18,799
mean i'm sure you have but have you

648
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:20,840
encountered

649
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,640
um like uh a test vehicle of any sort

650
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,720
you know and was there any precedence

651
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:28,640
for how that works

652
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:33,590
we ran across uh

653
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,159
f35

654
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:38,799
in 2000 and

655
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,080
i would guess 2002 2003

656
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,360
um

657
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,440
so that was an interesting thing to find

658
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,039
one day we were working getting ready to

659
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,120
go out to sea on a weekend

660
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:51,039
and

661
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,799
they were taxing the helicopter out when

662
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,240
they came back in they're like hey you

663
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,880
know we got this f-35 sitting away over

664
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,960
here we should go check it out so you

665
00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:00,880
know a few of them did

666
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,840
um that was the most

667
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,440
secret type thing i ever

668
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:07,679
ran across in my

669
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,269
any training exercises with aerial

670
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:15,360
vehicles at all that you've

671
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:16,400
like

672
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:17,520
had to

673
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,400
uh conduct or do and if so if there's

674
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,840
anything you can share about that how

675
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,440
that works

676
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,039
yeah never

677
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:28,000
never did anything like that never was

678
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,840
in a part like there was never a

679
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,760
situation

680
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:33,440
yeah

681
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,679
what made you want to speak out about uh

682
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,440
about the incident

683
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:39,600
well um i actually

684
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:42,320
ran across the documentary that dave

685
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,440
beatty did

686
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,159
yeah on youtube one day and watched it

687
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:48,000
and at the end i got in contact with him

688
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:49,440
just because you know i saw a lot of

689
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,799
people who

690
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,400
you know were

691
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,559
you know bashing an incident that and

692
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,480
people who

693
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:58,240
i happen to know that this actually

694
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,200
happened

695
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:01,919
and i can you know lend into their story

696
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,400
and add more witnesses to it so i kind

697
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:06,880
of just came forward to help them

698
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,720
yeah let them know yeah this really did

699
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,919
happen

700
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,919
you know yeah well that's nice yeah i

701
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,679
mean first of all thank you for your

702
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,679
service it's a long time you served and

703
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:16,880
you know

704
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,960
doing that is is not a

705
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,880
it's not an easy choice to make either

706
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,919
you know

707
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:23,679
getting involved with that and even put

708
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,400
your name out there like that have you

709
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:28,640
um received any

710
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,760
crap so to speak from people afterwards

711
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,000
no but that's probably because i'm just

712
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:36,880
not really into the internet or social

713
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,520
media like you know where you are today

714
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:41,520
so i haven't ran across it there might

715
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,840
be out there but i've never read it so

716
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,080
yeah well yeah if you don't know about

717
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:47,919
it didn't happen right

718
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,960
yeah

719
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,480
um

720
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:53,039
anything from that event or i guess

721
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,480
anything in general that you would want

722
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,240
people to know about it that maybe no

723
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,640
one's asked you about or anything like

724
00:26:04,789 --> 00:25:59,840
that

725
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,549
just you know i just want people to know

726
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:08,240
that it really did happen

727
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,760
you know and i'm glad that the

728
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,240
government has come out and is starting

729
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,880
to admit that there's stuff out there

730
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,320
that we don't know

731
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,000
about it you know

732
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:20,080
and from what i'm understanding is

733
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,600
they're finding it more and more and

734
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:23,840
more every day which is

735
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:25,679
exhilarating and terrifying at the same

736
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:26,480
time

737
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,000
so

738
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,000
you know

739
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:33,039
i've just questioned

740
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:35,360
question what you're being told i guess

741
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,320
yeah

742
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,360
no i hear you um

743
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:42,240
have you seen anything weird since

744
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:43,200
um

745
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,799
i know you didn't see it then but i've

746
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,400
seen since

747
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,400
um

748
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,480
uh i know we were talking earlier and i

749
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,159
completely had forgotten about this but

750
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,480
i had lived in phoenix for a few years

751
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:56,720
and there was one night i was

752
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,000
driving on the 101 freeway and there was

753
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,679
this fire

754
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,760
going on in the sky

755
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,679
and it had been sitting there it was

756
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,520
just sitting by the side of a mountain

757
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,600
just kind of going up into the sky and

758
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,120
by the time i got my camera out and took

759
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:13,360
a picture and looked at it all you can

760
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,880
see is this light and it just

761
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:16,320
disappeared

762
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,200
wow

763
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,840
so that was something odd that i've seen

764
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,679
yeah it's like

765
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:24,159
right what the heck what the heck is

766
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,520
that

767
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,760
something weird it was a fire in the sky

768
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,520
and it just disappeared but i know i

769
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:31,679
don't have any proof because the picture

770
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,840
came out

771
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,360
yeah no i totally know you mean even if

772
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,520
you had a picture of video

773
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,080
you know it's like

774
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,640
it never looks like what you what it no

775
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:44,799
what you saw in person it doesn't you

776
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:48,799
know seeing the uh spacex

777
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,360
whatever capsule that came back i was in

778
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,200
oregon you know living up here at the

779
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:55,919
time in la pine and you know we were

780
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:58,240
outside and that came and re-entered and

781
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:59,520
that was another

782
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,480
kind of scary looking site for sure you

783
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,320
know don't know what that is but there's

784
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,360
a bunch of fire coming in from

785
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:09,679
that looks that doesn't look normal

786
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,690
or i don't know

787
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,799
[Laughter]

788
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,039
uh this is a good question that do you

789
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,799
mind taking questions from the people

790
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,039
hanging out here in the chat at all so

791
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,200
yeah so if anyone has a question

792
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,679
um you can pay me to ask it which would

793
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,679
be awesome but you also don't have to

794
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:27,679
you can just type in the question

795
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:28,559
too

796
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,279
uh the main one here is now because that

797
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:33,039
was your last time on the boat i would

798
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:34,080
assume

799
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:35,840
that you may not have experience with

800
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:38,480
this but did the conversations change

801
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,789
um

802
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,799
you know i

803
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,880
i guess i would say that

804
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,880
you know because i we knew something was

805
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:52,320
going on we didn't know exactly what it

806
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:53,200
was

807
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,799
that you know

808
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:56,559
i brought it up and i would speak about

809
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,120
it i wasn't ashamed to say anything like

810
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:01,360
that um

811
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,240
but

812
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,039
because i've been gone for so long now i

813
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:06,799
really don't know what it is today but i

814
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:09,760
would i would guess it's a lot more

815
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,039
it's i'll bet it's changed quite a bit

816
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:14,880
yeah it would have to right

817
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:17,600
i mean the 60 minutes piece alone like

818
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,799
it

819
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:20,480
you'd think uh yeah people would be

820
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,840
taking that a little more serious i

821
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:24,399
guess yeah um

822
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,840
no like i watch

823
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,360
you're in that um

824
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:29,760
uh tear in the sky as well aren't you

825
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,480
yes yeah yeah so what did uh what was

826
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,080
your part that you played in that what

827
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,200
did you do they uh asked invited me to

828
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,279
come out and just kind of hang out with

829
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,279
them for a day

830
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:43,679
and so that's what i did kind of got to

831
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,640
meet everybody for the first time um

832
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,320
cool and then they did a little bit of

833
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,919
filming there was more they were showing

834
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,600
me everything they were doing

835
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:53,279
and all the equipment they got they

836
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,880
really had

837
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:56,880
dave altman really put together

838
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,919
you know with

839
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,799
um

840
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,120
caroline just an amazing

841
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:03,120
expedition thing so it was very

842
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,320
interesting to go out there and check

843
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,840
out what they had

844
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:06,799
yeah

845
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:09,039
in your expert well what was your

846
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:10,880
expertise in the navy was it kind of

847
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:13,279
like radar stuff or what was it uh so i

848
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,399
was a

849
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,120
aviation machinist mate i worked okay uh

850
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:19,279
h60 helicopters i was a power plant

851
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,320
mechanic

852
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,799
uh right um but at that time i was

853
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,799
training up those detachments to go out

854
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:26,880
to sea so

855
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,159
yeah

856
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,399
i guess you know it's just a

857
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:32,399
whatever i was doing at the time

858
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:33,279
yeah

859
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,840
gets any like power plant things going

860
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,360
on you can uh

861
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,679
maybe we'll see

862
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:43,760
yeah you could help out with that uh did

863
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:46,000
you enjoy that process you know taking

864
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:47,279
part in the movie and all that kind of

865
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,440
stuff yeah it was fun it was definitely

866
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,320
fun it was an interesting time um

867
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,320
there's a lot going on there was a lot

868
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,559
of data i know they they got a lot of

869
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,480
stuff it was pretty amazing what they

870
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:00,960
did i hope they can do more

871
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,230
me too uh dave all my kicks butt yes um

872
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,480
i don't know what this is but

873
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,679
did you ever experience a darkened ship

874
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:16,000
with no obvious reason

875
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,200
um

876
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:19,039
i don't know what that reference is but

877
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,240
very well

878
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:22,720
so they darken the ship every single

879
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,200
night okay um we go dark at sunset and

880
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:28,880
there's no light allowed outside of the

881
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,760
ship until sunrise and that's uh every

882
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,679
single day thing so

883
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,640
okay

884
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,480
well then i guess they're asking it did

885
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:38,399
that ever happen

886
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,919
out of the ordinary

887
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,240
uh you've experienced

888
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:44,960
it it's kind of it's an ordinary thing

889
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:47,519
it's never they are very

890
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:50,159
very anal about their light at night

891
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,440
yeah you don't want light shining

892
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,720
outside at night they just don't want

893
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,640
you they don't want to be seen

894
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,480
right so and they're very

895
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,000
anal about it

896
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,399
it's something i got this and it's just

897
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:02,159
it's bred into you there

898
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,919
i got a good comment here ryan who's

899
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,600
great in the movie

900
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:07,039
it's one of my favorite scenes in the

901
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,000
whole movie look at that right

902
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,919
pretty pretty nice pretty good stuff

903
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,440
right there

904
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:15,279
um

905
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:16,080
is

906
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:21,279
you want to

907
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,840
conversation or do you prefer to

908
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:28,320
you know do your thing and fish or like

909
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,159
what yeah what's yours i'm all about

910
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:32,960
having a conversation any time so you

911
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,880
know i'm

912
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,880
i would like to learn more i watched a

913
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,840
lot of documentaries but that's you know

914
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,720
yeah

915
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,760
sure

916
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:43,279
there's a lot going on right now and i

917
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:46,480
think it's a very very exciting time so

918
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:48,080
yeah

919
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,279
um

920
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:51,200
i'm just gonna rewind a little bit back

921
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:52,480
to

922
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,679
um

923
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:56,240
when that happened just to get a better

924
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,360
feel for

925
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,760
what the atmosphere was like because you

926
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,080
know a lot of the reason that you know

927
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,679
we're told

928
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,440
by the government or whoever that were

929
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,760
that we can't be told about ufos or this

930
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:10,159
or that is because it could create like

931
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:12,320
a mass hysteria thing so i think this is

932
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,240
a good question is

933
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,159
you know when what that was happening

934
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,320
did you get a sense of mass hysteria

935
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,240
from everybody or were people just

936
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,480
generally excited but still cool calm

937
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:24,960
and maintained excited cool calm and

938
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,120
maintained yeah see come on man right

939
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:31,120
yes

940
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,000
yeah

941
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:33,760
right

942
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,799
that would be a good time to experience

943
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,120
that thank you that was going to happen

944
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,399
but

945
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:42,640
um

946
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,200
how old are people generally genuinely

947
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,000
or generally on the boat

948
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:50,960
kind of all over from 17

949
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:54,399
to whatever you you do have a large

950
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:55,840
uh

951
00:34:02,789 --> 00:33:58,960
group of everybody but the majority of

952
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,799
the guys are 18 to 22 years old you know

953
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:04,480
that's the majority of the military

954
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,519
right there

955
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,760
yeah our young men so

956
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,639
yeah

957
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:10,240
but that you know you do have older

958
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:12,879
people um they seem to be wanting to

959
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:15,359
phase out the guys you know the older

960
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,639
guys and they just

961
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,240
i don't i don't know what the military

962
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,639
is doing today but

963
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,960
i think there's a lot of right

964
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:23,919
and

965
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:25,119
you know

966
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,919
go

967
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,000
they're ageist

968
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:30,240
yeah

969
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:34,480
clearly

970
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:38,399
uh has ryan ever seen a fast mover uh

971
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:41,760
how regular were those occasions if so

972
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,560
i unfortunately never got to see a fast

973
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,280
mover so um

974
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,599
i've i've seen satellites

975
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,599
you know those move pretty fast that's

976
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,599
the fastest thing you know i've i've

977
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,879
gotten to see

978
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,240
with my own eye

979
00:35:02,710 --> 00:34:58,079
yeah

980
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:05,270
when you um

981
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,880
when you contacted uh dave beatty to to

982
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:10,160
you know kind of vouch for this

983
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,680
experience

984
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,680
um

985
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,280
was that a hard decision for you to make

986
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:16,960
what were you what were you thinking or

987
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,320
feeling like

988
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:19,920
or was it just pretty much like this is

989
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,560
my duty i gotta do it i i felt like i

990
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,160
had to to

991
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,880
contact him you know i saw a thing where

992
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,119
he asked you know right

993
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,880
do you have anything you can add into

994
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:32,800
this and i knew i did

995
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,680
you know

996
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,359
after seeing it i'm like oh man i just

997
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:37,359
watch it i'm like oh my goodness i can't

998
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,800
i remember this i remember oh my gosh

999
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:42,720
it was an eye-opening to me it really

1000
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,760
brought me back

1001
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,760
are there um and you probably don't

1002
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,720
remember

1003
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,560
you know with all the time you spent in

1004
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,560
the navy you don't remember every day

1005
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,240
like you do that day

1006
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,960
no definitely i i do remember that day

1007
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,680
it's that stood out as one of a handful

1008
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,960
i guess probably

1009
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:03,359
yeah not many i don't remember too many

1010
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:03,920
days

1011
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,599
[Laughter]

1012
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,640
interesting

1013
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,720
um

1014
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,400
jimmy the earthling i don't know if you

1015
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,720
know who that is but

1016
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,400
as a question uh ryan has your

1017
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:18,560
experience changed you positive negative

1018
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,359
otherwise and have you had any

1019
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:23,599
other sightings since so i don't think

1020
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,000
he he didn't actually see the the tic

1021
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,079
tac but he was around

1022
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,079
and inside of that atmosphere when it

1023
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:31,680
happened but still great question have

1024
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,560
you ex

1025
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,880
has that experience changed to you uh in

1026
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,839
any way

1027
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,160
i i would say it it

1028
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,400
changed me positively you know it

1029
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:42,640
definitely i had always

1030
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,359
grown up you know questioned that we're

1031
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,119
the only things out there you know i

1032
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,599
know there has to be more out there and

1033
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:50,800
you know

1034
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,200
so that that was positive and it's more

1035
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,599
made me excited than anything

1036
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,680
yeah see what's gonna because there's so

1037
00:37:04,069 --> 00:36:59,040
much happening

1038
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:04,079
daily basis now that

1039
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,510
you got an in with some old navy folks

1040
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,839
or what no i just

1041
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,240
you you're finding them on people are

1042
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,160
posting more and more things online you

1043
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:19,680
can you can find

1044
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:20,560
you know

1045
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,599
the same shapes over and over it's

1046
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,720
you know

1047
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,480
there's just

1048
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:28,640
it's it's a worldwide phenomenon it's

1049
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,359
not just here you know it yeah it's

1050
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,599
being seen more and more i think there's

1051
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,640
it's

1052
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:37,119
ramping up for something

1053
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:38,320
you think so

1054
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:40,000
it's what it feels like

1055
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:41,119
yeah

1056
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,880
what who knows

1057
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,240
so what do you

1058
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,839
if you had to guess i mean we're all

1059
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:47,760
kind of guessing and speculating i guess

1060
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,280
at this point but

1061
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,240
um what do you think is going on what do

1062
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,839
you think they are

1063
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,920
uh

1064
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,320
i wish i knew i really do

1065
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,119
i'm sure we all do

1066
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,480
all right i

1067
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,200
jump off the deck take a guess i

1068
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,680
question it because i i don't know

1069
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,599
you know yeah

1070
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,200
i just don't know

1071
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:12,800
i wish i did

1072
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:15,280
well do you think it's uh human-made at

1073
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:16,079
all

1074
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:16,960
no

1075
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:21,599
us

1076
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,480
yeah

1077
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,000
that's that's

1078
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,680
i think that's

1079
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:27,599
becoming the consent and that was in

1080
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,520
2004 and i mean yeah this is not

1081
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,040
yeah for me to go

1082
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,720
and even now i don't i don't know that

1083
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,400
anyone could

1084
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,079
you know basically the way it's

1085
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,079
described to me is

1086
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,160
i feel like um

1087
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,720
you know it's uh almost like a like a

1088
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,400
muscle like

1089
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:48,640
you know being able to move however you

1090
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,240
want whenever you want you know like

1091
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,920
like almost

1092
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,480
like a perfect

1093
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:58,400
you know a perfect craft you can go up

1094
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,920
down disappear go fast go slow

1095
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,560
stop on a dime 90 degree turns i mean if

1096
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:05,839
you could

1097
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,359
you know cook up

1098
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,119
the most perfect

1099
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,920
ship or vehicle ever like that's what

1100
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,440
you would want it to do

1101
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,640
right

1102
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,960
anything the ability to just

1103
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,079
do anything

1104
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:20,079
whatever you need to do go ahead it's

1105
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:20,880
it's

1106
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,160
yeah possible kind of reminds me of um

1107
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,839
you know i used to have dreams a lot

1108
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,560
where i would fly in my dreams and they

1109
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,920
were a lot like that where i could kind

1110
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,599
of do anything

1111
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,520
it's interesting

1112
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,599
um

1113
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,520
let's see we got a question that came in

1114
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,640
here

1115
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,800
now you just saw the video so you may

1116
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,640
not be able to answer this but did you

1117
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:45,359
see any appendages at the bottom of the

1118
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:48,560
tic tac i yeah did not

1119
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:52,400
not close to where the screen was and

1120
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:55,440
again just not really paying attention

1121
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:58,400
yeah to be honest with you it's like

1122
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,440
i just couldn't remember that

1123
00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:03,599
you you see that you're like i wonder if

1124
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,020
there's appendages on it

1125
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:08,000
[Laughter]

1126
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:09,280
right

1127
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:12,240
it was kind of just like um

1128
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,760
is something happening you knew is

1129
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,280
exciting but you were focusing on

1130
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,599
something else yeah yeah so you weren't

1131
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:20,319
like taking in every little detail

1132
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,040
no

1133
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,040
yeah but i knew kevin

1134
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:24,960
day like i said he had told me that they

1135
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,800
were tracking things for

1136
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:28,880
days you know this is not something new

1137
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,760
that we didn't already know was going on

1138
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:33,839
that something was going on

1139
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,400
no sure sure so the things were being

1140
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:38,800
tracked um before that event

1141
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,920
for kevin day uh yeah he'd been tracking

1142
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,079
these for days

1143
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,839
like it wasn't just

1144
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,079
you know all of a sudden he'd been for a

1145
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:50,079
while watching him

1146
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:51,359
they thought it was

1147
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:52,880
uh

1148
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:54,319
something with the

1149
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,400
programming and spy i believe at first

1150
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,000
yeah like a malfunction or something

1151
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:01,839
i've read a lot of yeah you know you

1152
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:04,960
have issues sometimes that's for sure

1153
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,440
yeah and what is like with uh you know

1154
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:09,040
do they still call them angels on the

1155
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,800
radar or

1156
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,240
you know where you get like bugs or

1157
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,319
insects or or something like that coming

1158
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,240
through they've probably worked that out

1159
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:18,800
by now since the 50s but

1160
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,200
well i mean i know that like the

1161
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,680
the spy radar picks up you know clouds

1162
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,680
but they know the difference they're

1163
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,200
they're supposed to know the difference

1164
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,800
between a cloud and

1165
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,880
salt and object and

1166
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:31,760
sure

1167
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,240
i mean if you don't man i hope no war is

1168
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:36,160
coming soon yeah

1169
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,760
we'll be in some trouble

1170
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,599
yeah a lot of trouble we look like

1171
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,760
russia right now the best equipment in

1172
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:43,680
the world we just don't have anyone to

1173
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:49,990
um

1174
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,670
you know i guess this is uh something i

1175
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:57,200
had thought of so

1176
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,680
you know talking to kevin dave

1177
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:01,520
picking up objects

1178
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:04,000
for however long and then this big event

1179
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,440
happens

1180
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,440
do you know if anything

1181
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,680
like did that trajectory continue to go

1182
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,160
or was that like the end of it

1183
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:14,240
i

1184
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:22,480
was

1185
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,520
there and went to a different duty and

1186
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:31,119
you know it's gone

1187
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,160
yeah

1188
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,160
uh it'd be interesting if you ever

1189
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,680
talked to kevin

1190
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,760
asked him about that yeah

1191
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,359
because uh i wonder if that was like

1192
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,960
some sort of uh

1193
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:41,920
you know

1194
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,520
then it was over that's why they went

1195
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,640
out and did that whole uapx expedition

1196
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,800
in that area is because they were trying

1197
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:51,760
to

1198
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:52,480
yeah

1199
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:54,160
they originally they wanted to be there

1200
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,520
at the same time frame but because

1201
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:59,440
that didn't work out for them

1202
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,400
right

1203
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,319
yeah apparently they they got some stuff

1204
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,599
so that's pretty interesting for sure

1205
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,079
would you get in one of those tic tacs

1206
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:10,079
and ride it around town if you could in

1207
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:10,839
a

1208
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,520
just open the door i'll hop in

1209
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:19,520
as though i know that once and he said

1210
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,090
you said that was a hard no

1211
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,200
[Laughter]

1212
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,839
if i die it'd be

1213
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:27,119
great moment

1214
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,040
right in a tic-tac alien ship or

1215
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,680
whatever yeah

1216
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,480
uh what kind of things do you listen for

1217
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,720
or look for like let's say someone from

1218
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:38,640
the navy is coming out and they're

1219
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,040
telling a a different ufo story um

1220
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,560
what would be some

1221
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:46,640
some things that you would

1222
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:49,119
um listen for to i don't know know if

1223
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,880
they're telling the truth or not

1224
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,640
for instance like

1225
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,960
anything that stands out to you uh that

1226
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,480
we could know about that would help us

1227
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,599
shift through that because you know

1228
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:58,960
there's a lot of

1229
00:44:03,910 --> 00:43:59,680
yeah

1230
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,920
grifters out there there are um

1231
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:05,599
i don't know

1232
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,119
terminology comes in handy you know

1233
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:10,960
yeah if someone's using a lot of

1234
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,069
military

1235
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,160
you know behind that but

1236
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,240
uh

1237
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,800
yeah that yeah that's a tough one

1238
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:25,440
yeah i would just probably different for

1239
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,880
everyone now

1240
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,800
it's hopefully i mean they're out there

1241
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:30,880
defending every day so hopefully they're

1242
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:33,119
honest people you know most of them are

1243
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,319
so yeah

1244
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,000
that's that's good that you say that

1245
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,680
most of them are i mean because a lot of

1246
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,200
these people come out and talk like

1247
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,800
forever whoever and they just kind of

1248
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,680
get crapped on by a lot of people online

1249
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,319
to be quite honest with you um

1250
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,000
in the past you know there's a lot more

1251
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:49,520
people took

1252
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,800
a lot of grief over coming forward that

1253
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,839
you know

1254
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,839
it's finding out more and more that

1255
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,200
these people were telling the truth a

1256
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:58,640
long time ago

1257
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,440
yeah

1258
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,440
well and all you really have to do is

1259
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,119
study the history of like blue book i

1260
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,560
mean there's so many instances of

1261
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,800
fighter pilots and ufos going back to

1262
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,440
1947 there's hundreds of them literally

1263
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,680
yeah um i remember counting it and i had

1264
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,160
to quit because it got up to like 200. i

1265
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:16,480
was like okay i gotta be done with this

1266
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:17,280
right

1267
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,480
but um yeah everybody says all sorts of

1268
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,920
different things like hologram

1269
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:23,839
technology and all this kind of stuff

1270
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,560
and

1271
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,599
um

1272
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,280
you know i just would bring people back

1273
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,040
to the point of

1274
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:30,960
you know our conversation earlier where

1275
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,599
it was like test test stuff test

1276
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,119
vehicles or whatever like this was

1277
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,960
completely unprecedented event that's

1278
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:39,280
never yeah this was a happen before time

1279
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,040
there were no you know um

1280
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:45,359
the biggest smallest uavs weren't that

1281
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,839
small at the time you know there was

1282
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,920
a different time frame

1283
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,839
and from what we talked about if they

1284
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,440
were going to do some sort of test or

1285
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,680
something you would know about it

1286
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:58,000
any test that i was ever involved in but

1287
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,680
you know i'm not saying the military

1288
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,680
doesn't do

1289
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,599
things like that because you know

1290
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,040
they've been found to do some pretty

1291
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,599
horrible tests before on people

1292
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:09,680
unknowingly so

1293
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,950
hopefully they're better than that today

1294
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,440
yeah i would i would think so so i would

1295
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,160
think so i believe so

1296
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,040
um would you go back in and serve again

1297
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,280
if you if you had the opportunity did

1298
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:29,040
you enjoy it um i enjoyed it uh i kind

1299
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,319
of got the short end of the stick

1300
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,000
getting out and so

1301
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,400
uh i was laid off right before i was

1302
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,480
eligible to retire like less than two

1303
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:38,560
weeks so

1304
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,319
there's that but i think it's uh

1305
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,240
it's a good thing to do as a young

1306
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,599
person to go learn you know see

1307
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,359
something other than america and see

1308
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,280
what the rest of the world is like and

1309
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,440
just have an experience and and they you

1310
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,040
know they make it easy for you and then

1311
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,880
they pay you to go to college afterwards

1312
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,319
so

1313
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,960
military and i think it does help

1314
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,720
develop good character

1315
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,680
yeah

1316
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:06,240
what was your favorite place you got to

1317
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,440
visit

1318
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,359
um

1319
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,760
well the place i was at the most was

1320
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:14,480
panama so i've been to panama enough

1321
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,870
how's it is panama red as good as they

1322
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:21,839
say

1323
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,390
another conversation right

1324
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,040
yeah well i appreciate your time man i

1325
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,440
mean i had a great time talking with you

1326
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,040
and i feel privileged that you took time

1327
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,280
out of your day to do this

1328
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:40,800
um of course

1329
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,599
yeah so i i wish nothing but the best

1330
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:45,520
for you and i thank you again for your

1331
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:47,119
service and for coming out and talking

1332
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,240
about this

1333
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:49,839
i think um

1334
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:51,920
i think you pretty much you know let us

1335
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:54,000
know everything that you'd have to say

1336
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:54,640
and

1337
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:58,720
pretty fantastic so

1338
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:01,920
i'm super grateful for that um

1339
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,400
anything i'll give you one last

1340
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,079
kind of opportunity if there's anything

1341
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,040
that you want to say i know you know

1342
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,119
you may not and that's okay but just

1343
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,119
wanted to throw that out there and ask

1344
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,359
you so just thank you you know thanks to

1345
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,119
everybody who helped get me involved you

1346
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:19,680
know dave altman has really been

1347
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,920
you know a big person

1348
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,920
you know helping me out so i appreciate

1349
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,160
all the help he's given me and everybody

1350
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,400
else you know to get this stuff in the

1351
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,280
whole uapx going for them so

1352
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:33,520
i think today and you know thank you for

1353
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:35,920
inviting me out tonight so or today it's

1354
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:38,559
not night but yeah no that's cool man it

1355
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:40,559
is somewhere in the world yeah

1356
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:41,440
yeah

1357
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,079
no i appreciate it man your class acts

1358
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,079
super awesome to talk to you so i

1359
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:49,280
appreciate your time and um all the best

1360
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,800
anything i can do i don't know what that

1361
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,520
would be but uh you just let me know

1362
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:55,520
for sure thanks sean cool yeah thank you

1363
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,829
all right that was a fantastic

1364
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,440
conversation

1365
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:06,960
uh with ryan

1366
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:09,920
and we got a little more insight

1367
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:12,400
on the nimitz event he served on the

1368
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:13,520
princeton

1369
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:14,839
which was

1370
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,920
um pretty cool it's a good dude i really

1371
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,520
appreciated him taking the time to do

1372
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:21,280
this

1373
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:22,640
and i think we got a lot of great

1374
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,280
insight as far as

1375
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,280
that event precedence what's normal

1376
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,040
what's not normal and all that kind of

1377
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,440
stuff so i hope you enjoyed it

1378
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:33,760
thanks for hanging out

1379
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,309
um that would be great if you like this

1380
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:40,400
video subscribe if you haven't

1381
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,280
share it that would be awesome

1382
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,359
um thanks for everybody being so kind in

1383
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,800
the chat

1384
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:48,720
and again his bravery for coming out and

1385
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,040
just talking about this stuff fantastic

1386
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:53,119
so really appreciate it